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Updating a Template[edit]

The “2021 events and developments by topic” sidebar should probably be updated to include Weather of 2021 in the science and technology section. I attempted to update the template, but could not actually locate the line where to add it. Could someone with a knowledge of the template add it? Elijahandskip (talk) 17:31, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

Michael Nesmith - recent deaths[edit]

His name should definitely be on the 'splash' page - pretty famous guy. (talk) 15:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

RfC on which year should be the cut-off point[edit]

At this point, Portal:Current events/April 1994 has been deleted. If that has been deleted, then we might as well delete the pages for all the other months in 1994 too. So, we need an RfC.

Which year (from 1994 to 2006) should be the cut-off point for the monthly subpages? The current status quo is 1994. If there is consensus not to have monthly subpages for any month in a particular year yyyy or earlier, then all the following pages and their talk pages should be deleted:

This only affects the Portal:Current events subpages. Users may still recreate an article at Month Year with detailed references that follows the format used at December 1993 and earlier months. These mainspace pages do not follow the same format as the Portal:Current events subpages.

I am notifying Dronebogus, who has started the MfD for April 1994 and a few other months in 1994. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 04:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the question is? What specific portal-space articles are in scope to be deleted here? User:力 (powera, π, ν) 04:53, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
  • I wasn't aware we had current events pages backdated to before Wikipedia had a current events portal. I'm not sure it was a great idea to start that, as I'm guessing those pages are visited very rarely. I'm interested to hear more about the history of how they came to be and what state they're in. If we need to choose some arbitrary date, the founding of Wikipedia (January 15, 2001) might be an option. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 06:46, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete all as out-of-scope for Wikipedia, per WP:NOTNEWS and WP:NOTDIRECTORY, and in scope for sister project WikiNews, https://www.wikinews.org/. It is unsuitable for Wikipedia in being unreferenced content, and not based on secondary sources. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 07:28, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
    How many of the pages have you examined to determine that none of them have salvageable content? They could be reformatted and moved back to article space. And Wikinews has been dead for a decade, killed in part because Wikipedia is much better at covering current events than Wikinews ever was. —Kusma (talk) 10:04, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
    The content is salvageable for transwiki to WikiNews. WikiNews is not dead. SmokeyJoe (talk) 13:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
    It's very rarely appropriate for Wikipedia content to transwiki to Wikinews, considering license discrepancies and strict recency requirements. I'm not bullish on that project myself, but even putting aside that question, both those issues would be prohibitive. Vaticidalprophet 13:43, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
    There are some Wikinews projects that are alive (Russian?) but English Wikinews has not been working for some years. Last 50 mainspace edits go back more than four days, and most of these is someone working on an article about the Chilean presidential election, so not exactly "news". —Kusma (talk) 13:48, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
    The reason to delete is “out-of-scope” for Wikipedia, not that it can be reused elsewhere, and difficulty in reusing elsewhere is a very poor reason to keep. There is no rush. If this RfC has legs, it should be made a real RfC. The “Wrong venue” !vote is not a valid problem, it is good enough to publicise this at the Village Pump. SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:39, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
    User:Kusma, I don’t get why you assert that WikiNews is dead. I think you exaggerate.
    WikiNews recent changes indicates life. I think you mean “unhealthy”? Portal:Current events is much healthier looking. On looking again, Wikinews#Criticism is old and no longer applies.
    An alternative possibility would be to make en.wikinews.org redirect to en.wiki.hereiszyn.com/wiki/Portal:Current_events
    Portal:Current events is attempts to be WikiNews. Either do it completely, or stop it. It’s currently doing a massively better job. SmokeyJoe (talk) 06:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Wrong venue to discuss mass deletion. Keep per lack of specific arguments to delete instead of moving/merging/redirecting. —Kusma (talk) 10:09, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
  • Agree with the Wrong venue !vote. This impacts many hundreds of pages; it should be opened at the village pump. Also, open-ended RfCs such as this one rarely lead to a successful conclusion; propose a specific cut-off year and then people can give it a Support or Oppose with their reasoning. UnitedStatesian (talk) 15:11, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

New political party in France[edit]

I'm unfamiliar with this portal, and need some advice. I got here from the links at Wikipedia:WikiProject Current events because I had been looking at adding a {{WikiProject Current events}} project banner to the article Talk:Reconquête (political party). Reconquête is a brand new political party launched in France on 5 December 2021, by far-right journalist, pundit, and now, politician Eric Zemmour. Opinion polling for Zemmour for President experienced a meteoric rise in the last weeks and months, and this was before he was a candidate, or had a party. He has now declared his candidacy, and created a new party, Reconquête, less than a month ago.

This is all still very fresh, with things happening on a daily and weekly basis. In particular, editors here (many from France) are making edits to the Reconquête (political party) page which (at this moment) are unsubstantiated, such as that it is a far-right political party, or that it is Islamophobic. It might be, but it is so new, that there isn't information about this yet, and good-faith editors are just transferring over well-established opinions about Zemmour (like the fact that he is far-right, and Islamophobic) to the party article without proper sourcing. Probably they are right, but it's WP:CRYSTAL at best, as there are no sources for this (yet).

The new party isn't strictly about "one event" in that sense, but it seems to me it belongs in current events, to the extent that we are witnessing the birth and rapid evolution of a new political party in France right now, one that has a chance to be among the top two parties in the next presidential election. It seems to me that this party article needs more eyeballs on it by experienced users to keep it on track, and to watch for excesses by enthusiastic editors who are eager to stuff it with information about Zemmour, before there really is much reliable information out there about the party.

Anyway, I'm not sure what the window for a "current event" is, with respect to this Portal, or how to add one, so any advice would be appreciated. In the meantime, I've gone ahead and added WP:WikiProject Current events to the article Talk page; if that seems wrong, please feel free to revert it. Thanks in advance for any advice, Mathglot (talk) 04:11, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 4 January 2022[edit]

The photo of Peter Wright (darts player) has a caption that says "Betty White". Dmoore5556 (talk) 19:42, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@Dmoore5556:  Already done The problem was not in Portal:Current events but in Template:In the news, and was fixed with this edit - it existed for just three minutes before John M Wolfson (talk · contribs) realised their mistake. You were not the only person to notice it. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
Thank you! Dmoore5556 (talk) 21:37, 4 January 2022 (UTC)