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Inhofe[edit]

Done: http://en.wiki.hereiszyn.com/wiki/User_talk:MSTCrow#Your_edit_to_Jim_Inhofe. Thanks for your input and civility. - MSTCrow 16:14, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Iran and the United States question[edit]

The "question" was in violation of Reference desk guidelines concerning debate. I think it is telling that my deletion of it brought upon me a charge of being a "deletionist", whatever that is. If the question hadn't been controversial, would that have happened? DirkvdM's comment about crippling "discussions" is also telling; we aren't supposed to be having discussions (debates), but answering questions. Everyone (you and DirkvdM) would have been right to assume my good faith, because my only motivation was to keep the desk clear. By the way, see FiggyBee's anonymous's comment at the question's new home. But this isn't a big priority for me. If you want the so-called question back, so be it. I think you're wrong, but you think I'm wrong, and I don't feel any need to argue over it, unless you'd like to open a debate about deleting such questions on the Reference desk talk page, in which case I'd be happy to participate. You can copy this reply to whomever you like if it will help you talk about it. --Milkbreath 15:11, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty new here, but I'm far from stupid. "Consensus" in the Wikipedia sense cannot be arrived at by two people only, namely me and you. When I suggested opening a debate on the Reference desk talk page, I expected that to be understood to mean that I don't want to argue the point with any one person, except maybe the aggrieved party. But in the interests of amity I'll respond to your message of 28 October 18:46.
You quoted "But hadn't George W. Bush said that Iran is part of the axis of evil?", but you left out the Wikilink to axis of evil where it says practically nothing but that. That makes this "question" rhetorical and an invitation to debate.
I don't know if I'll be able to say this next bit without sounding harsh, but here goes. Your urging "not take such actions in the future" is noted, but not as good advice, since it contradicts Wikipedia policy as I understand it. I will always delete any question that I judge to be harmful to the reference desk, and I will always accept any consensus arrived at in open forum on my actions. I'm sure you will understand that I can attach little weight to the comments of a single stranger, however level-headed and articulate he may be to all appearances. --Milkbreath 20:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

I've been as polite as I know how to be, but I'll admit that politeness is not my strong suit, which is sarcasm, by the way. Perhaps I've said something that provoked the hectoring tone of your last message, but I don't know what it was. Anyway, I'm pleasantly surprised that this little exchange of ours is the extent of the static I've had to deal with on this issue, and I never wanted to discuss it in the first place. You called me.
See you on the desk. No hard feelings. Communication with strangers at remote is very, very difficult. --Milkbreath 20:36, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Probability Question[edit]

You're welcome! It has been my pleasure to run those simulations. Hope that helped you. Pallida  Mors 23:44, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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Medical and legal advice[edit]

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Re.:Milk gone bad[edit]

Yes, you can feed it to pigs. I have a 2008 Old Farmer's Almanac, and it has a article about pigs in it, and says pigs can even eat you IF the situation permitted it. 65.173.105.141 (talk) 02:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

MY issue is a yellow magazine depicting four farm scenes, matching the four seasons. 65.173.105.141 (talk) 02:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

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FA or GA Seattle Mariners[edit]

I see that you really want to get the Seattle Mariners article up to GA status. I would be willing to really help with that. If there is anything specific you want me to do, let me know. Thanks! Meisfunny Gab 18:32, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John R. Palmer[edit]

I left a link in the discussion you might be interested in about vanity publishing. - Mgm|(talk) 10:19, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Female / woman[edit]

Hi Elmer Clark!

Just a brief follow-up on the In the News discussion.

It's actually the term "female" used as a noun that is a misguided attempt at political correctness, while "woman" has been in use since Old English and remains the appropriate word for a female human. And as for taking offence, the OED does indeed call "female" used as a noun "vulgar".

You don't seriously go around referring to your women friends as females, do you? "I know a female who loves spiders", "let's invite a couple more females to balance the numbers", "she's a female who knows what she wants" . . . I hope not!

As for political correctness/gender neutrality/inclusiveness run rampant, possibly the worst I've ever heard was "When a person is in labour and about to give birth . . . ".

Which is not to say that I am against gender neutrality or inclusiveness, just not to the point where it becomes absurd.

Best,

Awien (talk) 13:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

John Hopoate[edit]

Hello. I just read your comments about the references on John Hopoate. It was back in 2008. If you still want to fix them, please do. I can't make heads or tails of them. Cheers! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:19, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

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Welcome to the Ref Desk talk page...[edit]

...where one of the reasons we might seem to "get along swimmingly" is that the regulars have learned that it's usually pointless to complain about the bad behavior of certain editors, since they never apologize and rarely change. But it's good to have someone new come along and call them out on it, as you did, and I thank you for it. —Steve Summit (talk) 23:17, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

That quote was related directly to the three individuals formerly constrained by an IBAN. Steve Summit has taken it deliberately out of context or has made a terrible misunderstanding due to lack of comprehension. You can "call" anyone out, any time you like, as Steve has congratulated you for, but attempting to use hysteria to do so is a waste of time entirely. And failing do to homework before creating a mass heat issue is poor form from an "experienced" editor. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:26, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
Well thanks, but I'd rather not get any more involved in this than I already am. I agree that it seems like a losing battle. -Elmer Clark (talk) 23:37, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

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Moved to appropriate forum[edit]

Thanks. -Elmer Clark (talk) 20:48, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

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Out-of-place examples?[edit]

The symphonies by Winbeck are not just symphonies. They carry text connotations, some are with singing/speaking voice. De profundis is widely understood as a reference to Psalm 130 and the depth of the human condition in general. How do you suggest to capture that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

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Vandalism[edit]

Hi there, i am Whiteraven335 ,a user User:Litti Chokha continuously modifying the sourced content on article Kumaon Regiment as per their personal preferences WhiteRaven335 (talk) 03:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello and greetings, I’m a fellow Wikipedian but just keeping my identity anonymous, I would like you dear Sir to see something more in this issue. I don’t know about the edits made by litti chokha, obviously it seems he has violated Wikipedia’s guidelines but at the same time, I would also like to bring to your notice about the edits made by this user User:WhiteRave335. What I know is, he has been consistently reverting and making edits on Kumaon Regiment, without adding any reference. I earlier had restored the page to the previous version, as it was sourced and well written, and this user came up and started reverting it. I’m again restoring it to the previous version, because I think a page that represents an armed force should be unbiased, and any edit that’s made in it should be appropriately sourced. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.148.144.254 (talk) 20:22, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

I have no involvement in this issue and have no idea why people are bringing it up on my talk page. This should be discussed at Talk:Kumaon Regiment, not here, and I have no interest in getting involved. -Elmer Clark (talk) 20:25, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Clark,

I recently removed a posting from Alex Cintron's website saying that he hid during a fight in the A's Astros game this year. If you look at the video this is not factual. He did not hide. If you would like, I would be happy to provide this video for you, so that you can assess for yourself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.25.253 (talk) 01:42, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

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2021 British Athletics Championships[edit]

How is setting the alt text to "Mo Farah with a white t-shirt and tinted sunglasses on his head." only works if people know what Mo Farah looks like. The whole point of alt text for images is for screen readers for e.g. visual impaired people. Lots of these people won't know what Mo Farah or Dina Asher-Smith looks like, so adding information about their appearance is relevant. Also, the 10,000 metres was a "race" setup as a time trial for Farah against the clock, he can barely be classed as winning it when nobody was competing against him (everyone else was just acting as pacemakers. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

@Joseph2302: Ah, I misunderstood the Farah situation - I took "the competition contained international runners and pacemakers" (emphasis added) to mean it was a competitive race, just with a strong expectation that Farah would win. Thanks for correcting that. As for the alt text thing, I'm a little puzzled - the guideline you yourself linked to gives several examples of images of people with alt texts, and all of them simply use the person's name, never a physical description. There's even an example of what NOT to do where it says you shouldn't caption a picture of Queen Elizabeth II wearing a black hat as "an elderly woman wearing a black hat," which seems very much like these captions. Alt text isn't really supposed to paint a visual picture, it's just supposed to succinctly let the person know what's there, and "a picture of a black man," etc. doesn't get the most important part of that (who it is) across. -Elmer Clark (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2021 (UTC)