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Happy Shoes[edit]

See [1] and [2]. This editor is not getting the hint. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 17:35, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Also, this after the ANI thread was closed. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 17:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you both. I have left a final, unambiguous warning on their talk page. Let us hope this is the end of it. --Jayron32 17:46, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
It had not. RSN continues as well as Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2021 June 8 (well after your warning). --Masem (t) 19:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Well, lookie here: [3]. --Jayron32 13:33, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

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Happy First Edit Day![edit]


Do you remember this? Where an inexperienced editor tried to get me blocked by falsely claiming incivility immediately after narrowly escaping a block as the result of another dishonest filing WP:3RRN.

Well, they've been ignoring your warning ever since, popping up to advocate that I be sanctioned every time I show up in an ANI thread, starting a VPP thread about the issue, including citing the very thread I linked above as an example of admins "failing" to respond to incivility. I'd note that the last example they provided is just as WP:GAMEy, as an admin did intervene, but just not to block the parties TOA wanted blocked.

There's more, too. Opposing an RfA candidate for not being a fascist, and an admission of right-wing POV pushing. The latter is no surprise: even though I don't edit in politics much anymore, strong right-wing convictions are the common thread between all of the wikienemies I've made since I wrote WP:NONAZIS. They've also been accusing Hijiri88 of being a Nazi, owing to the numbers in their name, and the fact that Japan was allied to Germany in WWII, of all reasons.

I don't know if you want to step in, or perhaps if you'd consider your prior handing of that ANI thread to constitute INVOLVEMENT (I have noticed that the term seems to be interpreted more broadly, the last few years). But I thought you might want to know about it, in any case. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 13:06, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I've been away on vacation for about 3-4 weeks, and haven't been able to look into this. I hope you were able to get some help elsewhere. --Jayron32 11:44, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Well, they got another round of editors telling them to chill the fuck out, and now they seem to be either going through my edits or demonstrating interest in some subjects that lend credence to Hijiri's supposition (that opposition to WP:NONAZIS is their motivation). But there's plenty of time to deal with them the next time they decide to personalize something. I have to admit, I'm taking quite a bit of amusement at the backlash they've consistently gotten from ANI.
By the way, I hope you enjoyed your vacation! ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:22, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
I did, and thank you! These things always have a way of sorting themselves out, even if not on the most efficient time schedule, I find that they rarely continue indefinitely. I will monitor best I can. --Jayron32 15:25, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
WP:ROPE seems to apply here. After all, it takes a full thirteen wraps to do it right, at least according to Woody Guthrie. Which actually inspires me to do something, now that I mention it. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 15:37, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021[edit]

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  • Consensus has been reached to delete all books in the book namespace. There was rough consensus that the deleted books should still be available on request at WP:REFUND even after the namespace is removed.
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File:Art of Animation Hall.jpg listed for discussion[edit]


A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Art of Animation Hall.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Please see the discussion to see why it has been listed (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry). Feel free to add your opinion on the matter below the nomination. Thank you. plicit 03:58, 29 July 2021 (UTC)

Patrice "Pat" Donnelly[edit]


I'm Patrice Donnelly's cousin. She has never been married to Mark Lutz, ex-husband of Francie Larrieu. After she divorced Pete Shmock she married Greg Barry, who she is still married to. They live in Port Hadlock, WA.


Michael Donnelly

If you have written, published information to this end, you should put it on the article talk page at Talk:Patrice Donnelly so that it can be incorporated in the article. --Jayron32 11:46, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2021[edit]

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  • An RfC is open to add a delay of one week from nomination to deletion for G13 speedy deletions.

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That's the name of a user who's making false charges of sockpuppetry against me. What might my best option be, other than going to ANI, which I am loathe to do and which I haven't used in more than 3 years. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:10, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

They've been warned by Star Mississippi. I would let it go, and if it continues, let Star Mississippi know so they can follow up. --Jayron32 15:01, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your advice. I very much doubt AldezD will follow through. He just wants his way with game show articles. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:40, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

AldezD and Alaios are in an edit war on List of The Mary Tyler Moore Show episodes. Can I report them to the edit-warring page, or would that violate my ANI / AN ban? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

That seems to have faded now, thankfully. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:15, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
I'm wrong again. He won't stop until he gets blocked. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:39, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
See also User talk:Baseball Bugs/Archive025#Recent activity of Baseball Bugs stalking my edits, and ignoring and archiving the thread without responding. There's also his lengthy block log for harassment and personal attacks. At Talk:List of Jeopardy! contestants, posts WP:IDHT personal attack reply after two editors agreed to keep the contestant out of the article until he loses. AldezD (talk) 04:09, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
All but one of which occurred 7 years ago or more - ancient history. Meanwhile, this character falsely accused me of sockpuppetry, which is worse than any personal attack I've ever been accused of, and as far as I know he has not retracted it. Also, his claims of "stalking" are part of his strategy to continue to WP:OWN articles. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 05:11, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
WP:ANI is thataway... This is not something I feel like getting in the middle of. --Jayron32 10:59, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
OK. I haven't touched ANI in over 3 years, a streak I intend to continue. Thanks for listening! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:26, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
It seems to all be settled now, thankfully. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

IP info[edit]

Please rev-del all or part of this:[4] Or tell me who I should ask to do it. (NOT ANI) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 00:35, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

done. — Ched (talk) 01:55, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you! ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 02:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
Looks like it got taken care of. Sorry I didn't get to it in time, I don't often log on on the weekends. --Jayron32 12:10, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
How dare you have a real life! :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 15:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Regarding 2020 town level census data in New England[edit]

I don't know enough about editing Wikipedia to accurately update these pages, but I have created a spreadsheet with town-level data for all municipalities in New England.

If you know anybody who would be interested in updating the wikipedia pages based on this data, please feel free to pass it along.

The data was sourced from the US Census website here.

My spreadsheet is located here.

Thanks, Wesley Newsam (talk) 19:52, 16 August 2021 (UTC)Wesley

Just make sure the links in the references are updated to directly link to the actual U.S. Census documents that contain the new figures (i.e. not your own document, but the one hosted on the U.S. Census website). Just take the URL to those documents and put them in the new references. If you're not exactly sure how to do that right, instead of updating the main page, put the information on the article Talk: page along with the link, and another editor will be along to update the article correctly. I hope that helps!--Jayron32 11:16, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

No need[edit]

I saw your recent comment that offered an apology regarding the CS issue, and wanted to say that I don't think you own anyone any apology. The whole "AGF" thing is one of the very few things that I take out into the real world with me because I think it's the right thing to do. I don't think it is wrong to extend good faith to people. Sure, there are some people who have shown that they don't deserve it - but I don't see that in this case. I think you did what you thought best, and that's all we can ask of anyone. So thank you for your efforts here, and I'm sorry if one in a thousand didn't work out - but that is not a "blame" you should shoulder. — Ched (talk) 12:14, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words. Don't worry, I have no intention of starting to be an asshole just because being kind one time didn't work out. I'm not particularly ashamed of being a good person. --Jayron32 12:24, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – September 2021[edit]

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Administrators' newsletter – October 2021[edit]

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First of all, thank you for helping improving the article about Einár . I have created an article on Einárs discography. Please take a look if you find time for it.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:14, 24 October 2021 (UTC)

Looks good! --Jayron32 10:42, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2021[edit]

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